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Rick & Lloyd are joined by Oliver Kay, Senior football writer at The Athletic, Joe Smith from Stretford Paddock and BBC Sport’s Chief football news reporter Simon Stone after a surreal day at Old Trafford. Can anyone pull Manchester United out of this mess? Michael Carrick suffered a tumultuous afternoon, where defeat on the pitch came with support in the stands – but at the expense of his players. Was this one of the strangest atmospheres we've ever seen at Man Utd? And is there someone,…