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A controversial Palm Beach billionaire claims to be the rightful owner of the Miss America pageant, and he’s not backing down. On this episode, we talk to the man himself. What’s in it for him? And how did he get involved in the first place? That leads us back to the current CEO Robin Flemming, a former dress shop owner turned pageant girl boss. You can reach out to the Curse of Miss America team at missamericapod@gmail.com . For more Curse of Miss America, follow us on Instagram @glasspodcasts . See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.